<em>Social Distance</em>: When It’s Illegal to Leave Home

On the newest episode of Social Distance, Jeffrey Goldberg and Anne Applebaum take stock of upheaval in Europe and new restrictions on travel and movement across the wold.

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Some highlights from the conversation:

• Jeffrey Goldberg: “If medical authorities attached to the government believe that we will be able to save lives by essentially forcing people off roads, out of parks, into their homes for an indeterminate period of time. I don’t know, who am I to argue with them?”
• Anne Applebaum: “I think this is a big blow for libertarians. It’s a big setback for the idea that we can all do whatever we want to do and that everybody will be fine. Most people, right now, it’s going to turn out that they are willing to trade some liberty for the chance of not getting sick.”
• Jeffrey Goldberg: I feel as a species we have been skating by and not having this happen all the time is sort of a miracle too … it’s almost like a warning from the planet.”

Katherine Wells is the executive producer of podcasts at The Atlantic.